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Old 04-20-2021, 02:07 PM
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Howell TBI / EFI Installation How-To for CARB E.O. #D-452-2

I've looked up and down this forum for good Wagoneer-specific ideas on how to install the Howell TBI kit, but info is rare both here and via google searches.

Figured I'd create a thread to separately track the Howell install I'm doing on my mechanically stock 88 Grand Wagoneer. This will be an "as I build it" type of thing so final product might change during the course of updating this thread!

Here's the kit I bought straight from Howell:
https://howellefi.com/product/k247jp...eer-401-clone/

The two manuals they link to that are NOT very good references, as they're not Wagoneer-specific, nor of high quality:

1. https://howellefi.com/wp-content/upl...-1972-1993.pdf
2. https://howellefi.com/wp-content/upl...ion-Images.pdf

And off we go...
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Old 04-20-2021, 02:16 PM
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Here's a pic of the kit out of the box.

From left, top to bottom:
harness
brain box
bag of zip ties, firewall grommet, and other stuff
bag of base plate, 4 tapered bolts to secure base plate to intake, and 3 bolts to secure throttle body to base.
throttle body
fuel filter
fuel pump
speed sensor
O2 sensor
high pressure EFI fuel hose

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My build thread:
https://ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=189245
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https://ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=189877

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Old 04-20-2021, 02:34 PM
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Instructions call for removal and/or rerouting of a lot of engine compartment crud, namely the air injection system components, some temp-vacuum sensors, and a ton of vacuum lines.

Out goes the air cleaner (to be reused later!), carburetor, smog (aka air injection) pump, pump brackets, air injection hoses, air injection manifold piping (metal piping to exhaust manifolds), and mass vacuum hoses from hell:

GONE!:


ALSO GONE!:


ALMOST GONE (DAMMIT)! 2 of the 7 air injection pipe bolts broke inside the manifolds. I got the driver side one out but the passenger side one needed chiseled flat:


The one I was able to get out next to one that came out easily:


I'll drill that last bolt out, tap the hole, and insert these 7 manifold plugs from TGW into the manifold holes:
https://teamgrandwagoneer.com/exhaus...-gw-1974-1991/

Not seen is the removal of the mechanical fuel pump and hard lines up to the intake area. I yanked all that and used the block off plate and gasket to seal the pump hole on the front of the block.
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https://ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=189877

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Old 04-20-2021, 02:43 PM
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UPDATED THIS POST TO REFLECT RELOCATED FUEL PUMP AND FILTER!!

The Howell instructions call for mounting the fuel pump at mid-tank level or lower to avoid potential problems. I decided to take that advice and place the assembly behind the transmission crossmember near the bottom of the frame instead of forward of the crossmember and above the brake hardline. This called for cutting the fuel hardline just before the long straight section close to where the frame is open.

I used a Ridgid close quarters tubing cutter so I had enough room to cut the lines:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1


Here's a better pic of the hardline I cut (above the filter). I wanted to flare the end but there's not enough room to use the kit in there, and the hardline is 5/16" and big enough to allow a nice tight fit once the rubber fuel hose is clamped down on it. I ran the rubber fuel hose in a gentle arc to bring it into the filter, and allow the filter to just sit in the void:


Good pic showing how low I had to mount the fuel pump so it doesn't sit too high above the fuel tank bottom:


I had plenty of fuel pump harness to allow moving the pump back from where I originally had it forward of the tranny crossmember (and likely too high). You can just barely see the old screw hole on the very right of the pic that originally held the fuel pump bracket:


Rolled up quite a bit of the fuel pump harness and hid it in the engine bay under the driver hood hinge:


Here's how much hardline I cut out. Longer one with rubber hose was the 5/16" feed line I cut near the frame void (near the tank), shorter one is the smaller diameter return line. I was able to pull both lines out thru the front and over the radiator core support with a little wrangling:


Here's where I cut the return line so I could have room to use the flare kit:


Since the return line is a smaller diameter, the flare kit gives it a better grip on the fuel hose and to help keep the hose clamp on:
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My build thread:
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My Howell TBI Install How-To:
https://ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=189877

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Old 04-20-2021, 02:55 PM
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Air injection pump and piping was removed from driver side, and it already looks better. Will repaint the power steering pump, and clean a few things up:


Pump and brackets will go into a box for storage and eventual reuse when I do the concours restoration (NOT!):
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Old 04-20-2021, 03:00 PM
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Figure I'll do some touch-ups in the bay so took out the oil fill tube, sanded it down, primer'd, and painted it. Can't help it, it's a disease:
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Old 04-20-2021, 03:06 PM
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Test fit the TBI base plate and its gasket. The 4 black allen-headed & tapered bolts fit perfectly:


Also test fit the throttle body and its gasket. 3 bolts with washers secure it to the base plate.
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Old 04-24-2021, 12:16 PM
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I took the TB and plate off to strip the intake of everything, sand it down, and paint the intake and valve covers with engine semi-gloss rattle can paint:


Got most of the gunk off and painted everything to include the oil fill tube and A/C compressor bracket:


Most of the stuff back on and mocked up:
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Old 04-24-2021, 12:31 PM
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While mocking everything up I discovered the Howell harness doesn't leave a lot of length between the octopus section that resides inside the dash area to the TPS sensor connection at the very front of the passenger side of the throttle body. Since that octopus section would get stuck, and I need more length, the best way to feed the harness thru the 1.5" firewall hole is to strip the loom off and feed each connector thru individually.

There's not a lot of TPS harness length that I can feed thru the firewall to get to that TPS sensor connection. I have a wrench next to the TPS sensor, and tape measure shows maybe 15" max:


From the closest part of the firewall to that sensor there's maybe 13". That doesn't leave much left over to decide where to drill the hole unless you strip the harness and feed it all thru individually:
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Old 04-24-2021, 03:53 PM
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In order to get up into the dash to mock everything up and figure out where to drill the 1.5" hole into the firewall the entire A/C vent assembly needs to come out, including the 4WD indicator assembly, driver side venting, and large passenger side. Courtesy lights and some other stuff needs disconnected too.

Once the A/C evaporator cover is off, you can lower the assembly down, simultaneously pushing the evap into the dash void, then let the evap hang once the assembly is out. Assemblies off to the side:




The black lower / footwell ducting can be removed by taking out 2 long bolts from the passenger side, one long bolt on the driver side that also has a spacer behind the assembly, and 2 nuts taken off the shafts in the engine compartment:


The holes where the 2 shafts and nuts were:


The view from under the dash is much better now. That black cable is for the heater control, also seen in the pic above, and gives me a much better idea where to drill:
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Old 04-24-2021, 11:09 PM
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I decided to trace where the black duct ends near where I want to drill to account for the shorter TPS sensor harness, and because the long length of main wiring harness in the cabin will lend itself to going toward the steering wheel, then coming back along the bottom lip of the dash, then up to where I'll have the ECM mounted with velcro along the inside flat part of the dash on the passenger side. The tracing of the black duct gave me a better idea where I should start the hole. I started with a small bit and just drilled a starter hole thru from the inside to the engine bay:


This is the rig I then used to drill using my 90* that only fits a 3/8" shank.
Part #s are 49-56-7250 for the 3/8" shank, and 49-56-0713 for the 1.5" hole saw that fits that shank:


I used the starter hole I made earlier as a guide for the hole saw, and from the engine compartment drilled right thru the firewall like butter, being careful to cover the throttle body to avoid metal shards.
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https://ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=189877

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Old 04-24-2021, 11:25 PM
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After drilling the hole and filing down any sharp edges, I discovered the 1.5" hole isn't anywhere close to large enough to fit all the connectors and their separate wiring looms, let alone get that octopus anywhere close enough to get the TPS sensor connected.

I decided to take all the tape off the octopus and strip the separate wiring looms back, then feed them all separately thru the hole. This relay had to go first since it was too big to get thru with anything else already thru the hole. I took off the cover, trimmed some of the plastic off the edges, and finally wedged it thru the hole with a little help from a flat punch and hammer :


With all the looms stripped back I was able to fit all the connectors thru much easier, being careful not to damage any wiring. This had to be done or there was no way to fit everything thru the hole. This also allowed me to yank much more of the main harness into the engine bay to get that TPS sensor connector closer to the TB (behold the exposed wiring octopus):


After I re-loomed all the connectors and taped the octopus back up in the engine compartment, I was able to wedge the grommet in, then organized the connectors. You can see the octopus now sticking thru the firewall just over the main harness that goes across the rear of the firewall.

I was able to terminate everything on the intake, including the TPS sensor with a couple more inches to spare, plus zip tie the fuel pump loom across the firewall under the main harness and drop it down between the main harness and brake booster. I also fed the coolant sensor and the 2 injector connectors under the A/C bracket to hide them and keep it clean. The injector connectors can be fed into a built-in void on the TB to clear the inside of the air cleaner gasket and air cleaner assembly when it finally goes back on:
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Old 04-25-2021, 01:05 PM
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Working on connections today. Most of it is straight forward, but had some concerns about harness length.

Left to right here, close-ups of the Idle Air Control sensor, TPS sensor, and 2 fuel injector connectors. Far left under a coolant hose is the MAP sensor I was told to cut the hose for to about 2". This type of MAP sensor doesn't need to be mounted downward according to the Howell tech I spoke to:


Direct battery power here. Plenty of harness to connect:


Small connector for starter solenoid. Was able to route it around the fuel vent lines to keep it away from the passenger side exhaust manifold, but not much length left:


Fuel pump relay (I think). I just drilled a small hole and screwed it to the firewall near the octopus to keep it looking clean:


I was told the speedo sensor can leak so used a bit of sealant around the potential exit:


Speedo sensor now mounted. Not much length to work with, as the harness connector was barely peaking out from the top of the transfer case. The sensor had enough length to reach that connector though:
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Old 04-28-2021, 02:21 PM
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Drilled a couple holes and screwed the new harness fuse block in to the right of the factory location:


Still need to terminate the switched 12V ignition power wire. Will investigate that and where to terminate my sunroof power wire too:
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Old 04-29-2021, 09:04 AM
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Got the 7 exhaust manifold plugs from TGW so put 6 of them in. Also drilled out that 1 problem child bolt and will tap it when I get home from work today:
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Old 05-04-2021, 08:29 AM
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Part of the Howell kit involves rerunning some evap lines to the charcoal canister, so during inspection found I needed to replace some. Hard to tell but these are the evap hoses for the fuel tank and transmission, which were so brittle they had turned to powder, and one had a huge hole burned thru it at some point due to it resting on the passenger exhaust manifold. I cut new hoses and ran them differently than they were originally to keep away from hot areas:


Took forever to get them out since I had to jack the passenger side up to get to the bolt that held the lines to the transmission. Once I got that bolt out I was able to wrangle the lines lower to remove the perma-clamps. Measured out new lengths, a bit longer to run them differently up the inner fender, and hose-clamped them to to the lines:


Took forever to get the passenger side #4 cylinder air injection hole drilled out and retapped to screw in the new manifold plug, but it's done now:


Part of the new fuel injection kit was getting a new O2 sensor hole drilled, bung welded up, and sensor screwed in. Local shop got that done for me. Was the first time I'd driven the beast on public roads more than a couple hundred feet. Placement was per Howell, in front of driver side pipe:


Also had the shop inspect the cat and as I figured it had been gutted and was useless, so had the shop weld up a new Magnaflow cat. Exhaust smells much better now!!:


Shop also removed the air injection pipe that went from driver side down to the original cat, with its custom water hose job. Unseen here was a large hole worn into the bottom of the pipe, making this thing useless even if everything else was good (which it wasn't!):


Discovered the distributor advance was set at only 5* with vacuum disconnected and plugged. I timed it for ~15* due to higher Boise elevation, but anywhere near the stock 12* put the nipple far too close to the power steering belt for comfort. Now I know why it was at only 5*!!:


Had to remove the dizzy after accounting for which cylinder the rotor was pointing at, then repositioned so I could get a better nipple location. More toward the power steering proved adequate for adjustment:


Engine bay is getting there. Still need to paint the power brake booster, power steering pump, and some other accessories, but there is certainly much more room to work now:


I reused the air cleaner assembly but will leave the vacuum hose off the end diaphragm since the flap inside closes when vacuum is applied, and that the fuel injection system doesn't need it.
EDITED THE FOLLOWING AFTER CONVERSATION LOWER IN THE THREAD:
The diaphragm closer to the air cleaner lid only opens when vacuum is connected, but since wide open throttle may cause it to close I decided to just wire it open permanently and leave the vacuum hose off it:
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Bust out inner flap or wire it open all time.
WOT or even heavy load vacuum drops and it can close resulting in HUGE air restriction.
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FANTASTIC THREAD!!! GREAT pics!!!

Thanks, mister. Hopefully I can get into more detail once I work on a few other things. The manual sucks for instructions, so might do detailed pics of the vacuum routing too.

Quote:
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Bust out inner flap or wire it open all time.
WOT or even heavy load vacuum drops and it can close resulting in HUGE air restriction.

I hadn't even thought of that, good idea. I'll rig something up and just leave the intake vacuum port capped.
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Not much to report other than I had to phone Howell's support guys due to a cold start low / hunting idle issue (~400RPM to almost dying, occasionally dying) I had from initial startup, obviously during open loop operation. Closed loop seemed to work well once the vehicle was warmed up and was obvious when it kicked over to closed loop since it idled so much better.

Anyway, their support guy was quick to answer, and he walked me thru which direction the T20 screw needed to be turned to speed up the cold start idle using the following steps in the manual (which again, is pretty pathetic since it doesn't provide anywhere near enough info).

I borrowed a portable tach and verified 650-700 RPM after screwing in (aka clockwise) that T20 torx screw about 2.5 turns from where it was originally out of the box.

Cold start is now quick and painless, though I have now diagnosed a couple exhaust leaks on the rear of both manifolds, as well as what sounds like lifter tick on the #1 cylinder, which is causing a misfire and subsequent RPM drop of 50-100 RPMs every few seconds. Will troubleshoot that soon as I need it running perfectly to smog it!

Lifter valley didn't look like a stuck lifter would be an issue when I had the intake off way back when:


Support guy verified I already had vacuum routed correctly (again, the manual wording sucks, and has no pics), and timing at about 15* for Boise altitude sounded good to him. I've used all new vacuum hoses, capped unneeded ports, and used a new EGR and PCV valve.

Idle Air Adjustment Instructions
Before beginning adjustment, grind the throttle stop screw plug, flat and drill into the plug or punch out the cup plug (on some TBI models) to allow a T-20 Torx driver to access the screw.
1. Jumper A&B terminals in the ALDL connector (scanner connector)
2. Turn ignition key on but do not start engine.
3. Disconnect 4-pin idle air control connector from the TBI unit.
4. Remove jumper from ALDL connector.
5. Start engine.
6. While idling, adjust throttle stop screw to increase base idle rpm as desired.
7. Turn engine off.
8. Reconnect idle air control connector.
9. This will complete the adjustment.
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