AMC 360 Stroker (383) for Donzi

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  • cma
    350 Buick
    • Jan 26, 2012
    • 1460

    #31
    Very nice write up Rick!
    Markus!

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    Cherokee Chief Laredo, 360 cui, selec trac, black, 12/1982

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    • SC/397
      Administrator
      • Feb 01, 2010
      • 1024

      #32
      Thanks Markus!


      We are installing the Air Gap intake on this one. I always use the steel vally pan gasket and the baffle plate under the PCV valve. I cut a chunk of Scotchbrite pad to go between the PCV valve and baffle plate.
      IMG_0047 by Rick Jones, on Flickr
      IMG_0048 by Rick Jones, on Flickr.


      She s just about ready to start!.... Except for the fact that I have to finish a 390 first.
      IMG_0053 by Rick Jones, on Flickr
      The Squeaky Wheel gets replaced in my world

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      • rang-a-stang
        Administrator
        • Oct 31, 2016
        • 5509

        #33
        I notice the rubber gasket under the end of the manifold. I used them the last 2 times I did a manifold but I hear lots of people say to trash those and just use a thick bead of sealant. Your thoughts?
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        • SC/397
          Administrator
          • Feb 01, 2010
          • 1024

          #34
          I always use the end seals. I use a punch and knurl the block where the seals seat and I cut about half of the tits off. Key things to do are clean the block where the rubber dowels go with a drill bit and use RTV only at the corners. If you get RTV anywhere else the seals will squirt out.
          102_2936 by Rick Jones, on Flickr
          004 by Rick Jones, on Flickr
          Last edited by SC/397; 07-08-2018, 08:13 AM.
          The Squeaky Wheel gets replaced in my world

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          • wiley-moeracing
            350 Buick
            • Feb 15, 2010
            • 1430

            #35
            to each there own, I always use rtv on the ends, no wrong way to it though

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            • SC/397
              Administrator
              • Feb 01, 2010
              • 1024

              #36
              I really don't like the RTV in place of the gasket. Here is one that someone did and now I have to try to clean it all off with a razor blade. Not a easy thing to do and a hour or so that I don't want to spend.
              IMG_0111 by Rick Jones, on Flickr
              The Squeaky Wheel gets replaced in my world

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              • wiley-moeracing
                350 Buick
                • Feb 15, 2010
                • 1430

                #37
                I understand but I don't like oil leaks either or slipped rubber end seals, what ever works is good, fire that motor up already!

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                • SC/397
                  Administrator
                  • Feb 01, 2010
                  • 1024

                  #38
                  I have never had a problem with leaks or the seals slipping out. I can't fire the stroker until I get a 390 put together, started, and broke in. I have to multitask with 2 different machinists now to keep things moving forward. Machinist 1 still has a 360 and a 390 to finish for me before I can take 2 more 383 stroker projects to him. Machinist 2 has a 343 ready for me and I need to take him a 360 and 290 to machine up after that. Somewhere in all of that I need to build a couple of 401's and a 427 stroker. I should be caught up in about 10 years I figure...
                  Last edited by SC/397; 07-14-2018, 01:16 PM.
                  The Squeaky Wheel gets replaced in my world

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                  • wiley-moeracing
                    350 Buick
                    • Feb 15, 2010
                    • 1430

                    #39
                    sounds familiar.

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                    • SC/397
                      Administrator
                      • Feb 01, 2010
                      • 1024

                      #40
                      NEVER buy one of these gasket kits. This one was supplied to me for a 390 build. The very first two gaskets that I took out of the package doesn't fit. The rear main seal is too small by like a 1/4" and the vibration damper seal is small by -.010". There is no press fit and you could shove it out by hand.
                      IMG_0052 by Rick Jones, on Flickr


                      The Fel-Pro gaskets are still the best and most complete.
                      IMG_0116(1) by Rick Jones, on Flickr
                      The Squeaky Wheel gets replaced in my world

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                      • wiley-moeracing
                        350 Buick
                        • Feb 15, 2010
                        • 1430

                        #41
                        Never heard of them before? ebay special? And your right, Felpro has been good for me also.

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                        • rang-a-stang
                          Administrator
                          • Oct 31, 2016
                          • 5509

                          #42
                          Originally posted by SC/397
                          NEVER buy one of these gasket kits. This one was supplied to me for a 390 build. The very first two gaskets that I took out of the package doesn't fit. The rear main seal is too small by like a 1/4" and the vibration damper seal is small by -.010". There is no press fit and you could shove it out by hand.
                          ....The Fel-Pro gaskets are still the best and most complete.....
                          Great! Glad you posted that! Saved me 2 hours of searching/researching in the next week as I order my set!
                          Chuck McTruck 71 J4000
                          (Chuck McTruck Build Thread)
                          (8.1L swap questions - PerformanceTrucks.net Forums​)
                          79 Cherokee Chief (SOLD, goodbye old buddy)
                          (Cherokee Build Thread)
                          11 Nissan Pathfinder Silver Edition 4x4
                          09 Mazdaspeed3 Grand Touring
                          00 Baby Cherokee

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                          • SC/397
                            Administrator
                            • Feb 01, 2010
                            • 1024

                            #43
                            No problem!
                            A few years ago I bought one of every kit at the time to do a comparison. I had pictures taken and all of that but never took the time to post it all up. Some of the others use some of the Fel-Pro gaskets in the kit but that one labeled DC took it upon themselves to make their own gaskets. Too bad they do't fit. The rest of the gasket kits are not near as terrible but none have as good of kit as the Fel-Pro one.
                            The Squeaky Wheel gets replaced in my world

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                            • Donzi
                              232 I6
                              • May 03, 2006
                              • 52

                              #44
                              Engine looks good!

                              When were you planning to crank it up?

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                              • SC/397
                                Administrator
                                • Feb 01, 2010
                                • 1024

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Donzi
                                Engine looks good!

                                When were you planning to crank it up?


                                Next week I hope.
                                The Squeaky Wheel gets replaced in my world

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