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  • NBD925
    232 I6
    • Oct 16, 2014
    • 124

    Need a picture of 1978 Jeep J10 Battery Tray and Parts

    Does anyone have a picture of a 1978 Jeep J-10 Battery tray and associated parts. I think someone through the years has swapped out my battery tray, bottom support and battery hold down clamp. Nothing seems to line up and the battery moves around. I?m tired of the random scraps of wood to wedge the battery this way and that way to keep it tight.

    Can anyone help me with some pictures of original parts so I can find the correct pieces to fix this battery problem.

    Thanks everyone
    1977 Jeep J10
    258 Engine
    Weber 38 carb
    T15 Trans
    Dana 20 with Tera Low
    Dana 44 Front and Rear axles
    Custom 16 inch rims 235x85 R16 Duratrac tires
  • NBD925
    232 I6
    • Oct 16, 2014
    • 124

    #2
    Apparently this is what the original looks like.



    I’m not sure if my 1978 Jeep J-10 has this weird 45 degree battery setup but I see all the right holes on my Jeep. Just lacking the right parts. Someone must have swapped out the original parts.
    1977 Jeep J10
    258 Engine
    Weber 38 carb
    T15 Trans
    Dana 20 with Tera Low
    Dana 44 Front and Rear axles
    Custom 16 inch rims 235x85 R16 Duratrac tires

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    • nograin
      304 AMC
      • Dec 19, 2000
      • 2286

      #3
      The one in the picture looks about the same as the one in my '85 Wagon.
      There's some factory brochures here: http://www.oldcarbrochures.com/stati...ne/index1.html

      But odds are not good that there's a good image of the battery tray in those.

      Might want to look through the "Build threads" sub forum for J trucks of your year or close.
      '85 Grand Wagoneer
      360 727auto, NP229
      body by beer (PO)
      carries wood inside
      no "wood" outside
      My other car is a fish

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      • tgreese
        • May 29, 2003
        • 11682

        #4
        NB location on inner fender for 6 and V8 are different, if it matters.
        Tim Reese
        Maine beekeeper's truck: '77 J10 LWB, 258/T15/D20/3.54 bone stock, low options (delete radio), PS, hubcaps.
        Browless and proud: '82 J20 360/T18/NP208/3.73, Destination ATs, 7600 GVWR
        Copper Polly: '75 CJ-6, 304/T15, PS, BFG KM2s, soft top
        GTI without the badges: '95 VW Golf Sport 2000cc 2D
        ECO Green: '15 FCA Jeep Cherokee KL Trailhawk

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        • NBD925
          232 I6
          • Oct 16, 2014
          • 124

          #5
          I have the 258 Six. Is the link I gave with the picture wrong for my 258 Engine bay?

          I?m still looking for a good picture of the battery setup for this truck.
          1977 Jeep J10
          258 Engine
          Weber 38 carb
          T15 Trans
          Dana 20 with Tera Low
          Dana 44 Front and Rear axles
          Custom 16 inch rims 235x85 R16 Duratrac tires

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          • tgreese
            • May 29, 2003
            • 11682

            #6
            Originally posted by NBD925
            I have the 258 Six. Is the link I gave with the picture wrong for my 258 Engine bay?

            I’m still looking for a good picture of the battery setup for this truck.
            Yep, parts are the same (I think) but location on the inner fender is wrong. I'll get a pic from my '77 likely tomorrow moring when it's light.
            Tim Reese
            Maine beekeeper's truck: '77 J10 LWB, 258/T15/D20/3.54 bone stock, low options (delete radio), PS, hubcaps.
            Browless and proud: '82 J20 360/T18/NP208/3.73, Destination ATs, 7600 GVWR
            Copper Polly: '75 CJ-6, 304/T15, PS, BFG KM2s, soft top
            GTI without the badges: '95 VW Golf Sport 2000cc 2D
            ECO Green: '15 FCA Jeep Cherokee KL Trailhawk

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            • tgreese
              • May 29, 2003
              • 11682

              #7
              Tim Reese
              Maine beekeeper's truck: '77 J10 LWB, 258/T15/D20/3.54 bone stock, low options (delete radio), PS, hubcaps.
              Browless and proud: '82 J20 360/T18/NP208/3.73, Destination ATs, 7600 GVWR
              Copper Polly: '75 CJ-6, 304/T15, PS, BFG KM2s, soft top
              GTI without the badges: '95 VW Golf Sport 2000cc 2D
              ECO Green: '15 FCA Jeep Cherokee KL Trailhawk

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              • tgreese
                • May 29, 2003
                • 11682

                #8
                Is there a picture there? Somehow my work won't allow a redirection back to an address at my work, so the pictures don't show. Can't reach IFSJA from home.

                Here's a link - http://nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/~reese/J10BatteryTray.jpg

                As you can see, there is bolt straight in to the core support, there is bolt that goes down through the inner fender, and a bolt at the outer corner. The bolt at the outer corner connects to a brace that goes to the core support lower down.
                Tim Reese
                Maine beekeeper's truck: '77 J10 LWB, 258/T15/D20/3.54 bone stock, low options (delete radio), PS, hubcaps.
                Browless and proud: '82 J20 360/T18/NP208/3.73, Destination ATs, 7600 GVWR
                Copper Polly: '75 CJ-6, 304/T15, PS, BFG KM2s, soft top
                GTI without the badges: '95 VW Golf Sport 2000cc 2D
                ECO Green: '15 FCA Jeep Cherokee KL Trailhawk

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                • nograin
                  304 AMC
                  • Dec 19, 2000
                  • 2286

                  #9
                  Yes. I can see it. (win xp, seamonkey/mozilla with no-script)

                  Definately a bit different than the tray in my '85 Wagon with v8.
                  It might be possible to alter one like mine...
                  Here's some photos from when I repaired it last spring.









                  Battery Tray Album (Flickr)
                  '85 Grand Wagoneer
                  360 727auto, NP229
                  body by beer (PO)
                  carries wood inside
                  no "wood" outside
                  My other car is a fish

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                  • tgreese
                    • May 29, 2003
                    • 11682

                    #10
                    Pretty sure the tray is the same. The tray has to be rotated for the V8, since the V8 radiator is wider.
                    Tim Reese
                    Maine beekeeper's truck: '77 J10 LWB, 258/T15/D20/3.54 bone stock, low options (delete radio), PS, hubcaps.
                    Browless and proud: '82 J20 360/T18/NP208/3.73, Destination ATs, 7600 GVWR
                    Copper Polly: '75 CJ-6, 304/T15, PS, BFG KM2s, soft top
                    GTI without the badges: '95 VW Golf Sport 2000cc 2D
                    ECO Green: '15 FCA Jeep Cherokee KL Trailhawk

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                    • nograin
                      304 AMC
                      • Dec 19, 2000
                      • 2286

                      #11
                      Maybe a 70s v8 tray is the same, and the difference between yours and mine is the year.
                      Big differences I see are:
                      my '85 has the stud in the corner and your '77 has the stud center.
                      the tab on mine is angled and attached to the short end, while the '77 has a tab on the long side.

                      The wide stamped channels seem a little different too. Not sure if that would make a difference, but probably could be shimmed if interchanging is needed.
                      '85 Grand Wagoneer
                      360 727auto, NP229
                      body by beer (PO)
                      carries wood inside
                      no "wood" outside
                      My other car is a fish

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                      • tgreese
                        • May 29, 2003
                        • 11682

                        #12
                        Yes, the trays are clearly different. You could make the V8 tray work with a little drilling and welding.

                        I recall the two batteries are different too - same size and shape, but the posts are reversed. I have tried putting the 258 battery in my V8 J20 and the positive terminal is dangerously close to the hood diagonal crossmemeber when closed.
                        Tim Reese
                        Maine beekeeper's truck: '77 J10 LWB, 258/T15/D20/3.54 bone stock, low options (delete radio), PS, hubcaps.
                        Browless and proud: '82 J20 360/T18/NP208/3.73, Destination ATs, 7600 GVWR
                        Copper Polly: '75 CJ-6, 304/T15, PS, BFG KM2s, soft top
                        GTI without the badges: '95 VW Golf Sport 2000cc 2D
                        ECO Green: '15 FCA Jeep Cherokee KL Trailhawk

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                        • Woodchomper
                          350 Buick
                          • Dec 17, 2002
                          • 923

                          #13
                          I know you asked for original pictures but have you thought of just making your own battery tray? There was not a lot of effort put into this battery tray. The benefit though was being able to reuse a battery (Group 31 I believe) that we had leftover from another project. The original battery tray besides being the wrong size was too far gone to use. The new tray does hold the battery nicely.





                          Last edited by Woodchomper; 12-01-2017, 03:10 PM.
                          1991 GW 401 /727TF/NP229 /4" Skyjacker /EBL TBI /CS-144
                          1981 J10 401 /727TF/NP208 /6" Superlift /CS-144

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                          • NBD925
                            232 I6
                            • Oct 16, 2014
                            • 124

                            #14
                            Wow thanks for all the information everyone! I headed over to Montana Overland Jeep, a local Jeep junkyard. I did some looking and found a few stock examples. It seemed like all of them were rotted out.

                            I did some searching on the internet and found that they still make some new battery trays for CJ Jeeps. If you do a search on Google for “Jeep CJ Battery Tray” they look the exact same. You just have to cut off the 45 degree vertical side straps. Because almost all the original trays I looked at were rotted out, I think I’m just going to get a new CJ Tray.

                            I tried to post a picture but it’s a nightmare getting them to meet the size limits.
                            Last edited by NBD925; 12-04-2017, 01:30 PM.
                            1977 Jeep J10
                            258 Engine
                            Weber 38 carb
                            T15 Trans
                            Dana 20 with Tera Low
                            Dana 44 Front and Rear axles
                            Custom 16 inch rims 235x85 R16 Duratrac tires

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                            • tgreese
                              • May 29, 2003
                              • 11682

                              #15
                              Originally posted by NBD925
                              Wow thanks for all the information everyone! I headed over to Montana Overland Jeep, a local Jeep junkyard. I did some looking and found a few stock examples. It seemed like all of them were rotted out.

                              I did some searching on the internet and found that they still make some new battery trays for CJ Jeeps. If you do a search on Google for “Jeep CJ Battery Tray” they look the exact same. You just have to cut off the 45 degree vertical side straps. Because almost all the original trays I looked at were rotted out, I think I’m just going to get a new CJ Tray.

                              I tried to post a picture but it’s a nightmare getting them to meet the size limits.
                              The site won't host your pictures. The maximum picture size is made arbitrarily small to keep you from posting. Put your pictures on your choice of other servers and hot-link to them.

                              There are lots of aftermarket battery trays that will work. The CJ tray is probably more expensive than needed for this purpose. Look on Amazon for a large sampling.

                              Battery tray above looks like this one - https://www.amazon.com/Universal-Bat...s=battery+tray This part is likely available cheaper from Summit or Jegs. Make sure any replacement tray does not put the positive post where it will contact the hood brace.
                              Last edited by tgreese; 12-05-2017, 10:10 AM.
                              Tim Reese
                              Maine beekeeper's truck: '77 J10 LWB, 258/T15/D20/3.54 bone stock, low options (delete radio), PS, hubcaps.
                              Browless and proud: '82 J20 360/T18/NP208/3.73, Destination ATs, 7600 GVWR
                              Copper Polly: '75 CJ-6, 304/T15, PS, BFG KM2s, soft top
                              GTI without the badges: '95 VW Golf Sport 2000cc 2D
                              ECO Green: '15 FCA Jeep Cherokee KL Trailhawk

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