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Old 02-27-2008, 07:29 PM
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Yes, BUT you have to swap the output shaft of the Jeep 727 with the Dodge 727 shaft. I learned this the hard way when I found that the Jeep adapter is about 2" shorter than the Dodge!! Luckily I needed to get the trans rebuilt anyhow, so they just did it while it was apart.
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Old 02-27-2008, 08:35 PM
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when you say the jeep adapter you just mean the rear output of the transmission right? not an actual adapter added to the trans.
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Old 02-27-2008, 08:46 PM
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The adapter between the trans & transfer case.
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Old 03-03-2008, 04:12 PM
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mcroth, you got any pics of the new setup? i would like to see any differences there might be. i do have a tranny in need of rebuilding, ill have to find a dodge tranny to swap outputs.
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Old 03-06-2008, 10:30 AM
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I'll try to get them for you tonight.
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Old 03-06-2008, 11:52 AM
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cool, sounds good. i have been wanting to rebuild a 727 that i accidently burned up a while back. that will give me a chance to kill two birds with one tranny.
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Old 03-06-2008, 06:27 PM
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Here they are. I really need to clean up the output shaft & oil it!



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Old 03-08-2008, 08:32 AM
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thanks for the pics, that helps a lot when going to the boneyard to find a tranny. what years should i look for on the dodge tranny?

is the dodge 203 the only one that will bolt up to 727? what about the gm 203? or is that the same thing?
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Old 03-09-2008, 10:36 AM
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I believe the mid to late 70's dodge's came with 203's, at least some of them. I got my output shaft from the tranny shop that did my rebuild, you should be able to find one that way too, I'd think. it was on ly $20.
Yes, the dodge is the only one that will work AFIK.
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Old 12-31-2008, 03:54 PM
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is it somehow possible to adapt 2 cases so that i can get a driver side drop?im currently running a t 400 and a 205.just wodering if i could mix things up somehow to get a dr side drop so i can use a hp ford dana 60 with my current chevy setup.
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is it somehow possible to adapt 2 cases so that i can get a driver side drop?im currently running a t 400 and a 205.just wodering if i could mix things up somehow to get a dr side drop so i can use a hp ford dana 60 with my current chevy setup.

Well, the Ford NP205 is a 32 spline unit if I remember correctly, and it drops down on the driver's side. You'd have to figure how to mate a Ford NP205 to your NP203 of your choosing.

I picked up my adapter from a guy off of Pirate named Dirtybird, his stuff was inexpensive, and he made adapters to fit different 203 range boxes to lots of stuff, even Dana 300's.
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Old 12-31-2008, 06:32 PM
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The ford version has a 31 spline input, and 32 spline outputs. I would call around to the diffrrent doubler kits makers and ask if they make one where you can use a ford 205 with a chevy 203 range box
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thanks for the info!
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Everytime I read this thread it gets more complicated. I want to do the doubler behind my 727 but it sounds like now I have to swap parts off of a dodge 727 to start with. might as well go Black Box or Klune or just go atlas and be done with it.
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Old 02-16-2009, 10:05 AM
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if you've got the money I would. doublers are for folks on the cheap.
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Old 02-16-2009, 03:14 PM
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Old 01-03-2010, 08:03 AM
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is it somehow possible to adapt 2 cases so that i can get a driver side drop?im currently running a t 400 and a 205.just wodering if i could mix things up somehow to get a dr side drop so i can use a hp ford dana 60 with my current chevy setup.

NW Fab can match it up for you. Any 203 with any 205 and they probably have other combos.

I finally got mine clocked where I need it. Kind of a bugger to do the clocking when it's installed on a rig but the 3" body lift made things easier. I have it so everything.... everything including the crossmember stuffs up under the frame and I have a cutout to drop the front driveline down through the crossmember.

I don't know about this being cheap, cheaper probably. Where is the challenge of just buying something in a box that takes six bolts to attach? Besides, with the 203/205 you have two places to run a PTO off of.
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I'll be running a Dodge 203 and a Ford 205 in Crom soon. I got the adaptor from http://www.sumnermachine.com John and his wife were really nice and he started on it as soon as I called, so that when I made the second payment to him he had it boxed and ready to ship!
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Old 08-16-2010, 09:35 PM
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Glad he's back in gear...


I've got a TH400/203 and a '90 NP205 listed in the forsale section if anyone is interested, also up on ebay. I can work it to piecemeal it depending on what someone might need.
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I've updated all the dead pic links in my posts. Now, who's put a GM NV4500 to a 203 range box?

I've mated one to a GM six bolt NP205 with some clearancing and a short input (as posted in my dually thread at: http://www.ifsja.org/forums/vb/showthread.php?t=83955 ) so wouldn't this work the same as how I studded the GM NP203 case to match up with the Ford NP435 I did earlier?
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