Skyjacker Lift from FWP: Need Smoother Ride

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  • 1jeep4me
    350 Buick
    • Jun 27, 2001
    • 998

    Skyjacker Lift from FWP: Need Smoother Ride

    Welll I have had this lifted for 2 years now and am Just sick of the bouncing ride.. The lift had a set of front springs and rear blocks with Nitro something shocks.....

    Is ther eany way to get a smoother ride? I lower my tire pressure to 26lbs just to get the jounce out of the vehicle.. I am very tempted to remove the lift and replace the front springs......

    The rear is blocks only and the shocks are some kind of nitro smooth ride things... I know very little about lifts and ride quality but the bounce is bad and I miss that GW ride.....

    Its an 82 Cherokee CHief Wide Track with 33x11-15 engine is new the tires new etc.. nice rig but would like a smoother suspension

    [ December 15, 2003, 09:56 AM: Message edited by: 1jeep4me ]
    Jenny SOLD
    1982 Cherokee Chief Wide Track
    4 inch lift
    360 ci Edelbrock carb and intake
    115K
    Daisy
    1970 Wagoneer by Kaiser
    350 Buick/Turbo 400
    3.73:1 Limited slip
    41K original miles
    Lilly
    SOLD your a good girl LILLY!
    1973 Commando by Jeep
    304 2V 3:73 Limited Slip
    3 Speed
    93K original miles
  • billyrb
    BJ's Off-Road
    • Aug 15, 2001
    • 10032

    #2
    Changing shocks will help some of that. But, stiff springs are stiff, not much of a way to get around that.
    BJ's Off-Road
    [email protected]
    Your source for '63-'91 FSJ Parts

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    • joe
      • Apr 28, 2000
      • 22392

      #3
      You might consider buying the rest of the skyjacker system. The "system" is new springs/shocks at all four coners where the "lift kit" is front springs/rear blocks like you have. The Skyjacker Softrider system is about the smoothest ride available for a lift kit. Rustys, Rancho etc will be a lot harsher than the Skyjacker.
      joe
      "Don't mind me. I'm just here for the alibi"

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      • Big Blue
        258 I6
        • Oct 15, 2002
        • 325

        #4
        I agree with billyrb with changeing the shocks. The nitro shock are supposed to be the really stiff. I think the Hydros would ride better. But again if you have stiff springs, the only thing that will cure that is softer springs.
        78 Cherokee, SBC 350, th-350, np203/d300, 4-inch Rusty's lift, TT's fabworks shackle flip kit, spring over, D60 rear (4.10's, welded), Chevy D44 front (4.10's), hi-steer, 38.5" swamper sx's.

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        • #5
          Get the hydro shocks for a smoother ride... the Nitros are charged for a more offroad vehicle...

          also.. who installed the lift? Did they preload the suspension prior to tightening it?

          IF you follow Skyjacker's instructions, you torque the axles to the springs and leave all the spring and shackle bolts loose until you get it on the ground under full weight and bounce on the bumpers several times.. THEN torque the spring bolts and shackle bolts to specs....

          If it was tightened while on the jacks ( under full droop) you get a stiff ride and false lift....

          I have the Skyjacker lift since 98 and LOVE it.... smoothest full spring lift system I have riden in to date..
          Todd
          www.ttsfabworks.com

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          • The PIG Smith
            King Browless

            Moderator
            • Nov 30, 2001
            • 6538

            #6
            I'm glad someone brought up this topic.

            I have a 4" inch suspension lift kit on my Wagoneer.
            I think it is a Rough Country Brand, but I do not know.
            It is super stiff. Very uncomfortable!

            I was thinking replacing it this summer with a BJ's kit.
            But, maybe or maybe not, this will solve my issue.

            Todd,

            If I put my rig up on jacks stands, loosen the shackle bolts, lower my rig on the ground, jump on the bumper a few times and then tighten the shackles bolts...this might help?
            I do know for sure what the brand life I have,
            so wonder what I should torqure the bolt to?

            Also, what brand hydro shocks do you recommend?

            My Wag is basically a street machine with maybe some trail riding later after I get the bug worked out.

            [ December 15, 2003, 01:04 PM: Message edited by: The PIG Smith ]
            Bryan Smith
            2017 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited
            - 75th Anniversary Edition - 1941 Trim Package - Recon Green
            1986 Jeep J20
            - Super clean rig from the AZ/CA state line
            1982 Jeep J10
            - Has become a Long Term Project.
            1981 Jeep J20
            - Commercial flat bed - Lost in a Divorce --gone
            1987 Jeep J20 Pioneer
            - Former Rick Bielec aka Ricbee plow rig. Major rust!! --gone

            IFSJA Member #1933 Joined November 30, 2001

            Originally posted by Jayrodoh
            ...but if it works, I wouldn't touch it.
            Originally posted by Lindel
            Best laid plans, yada yada yada...

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            • #7
              What shocks are you running now? Rancho is good.. I run them on RB and ProComp Explorer on my Burb... both are good...

              You can try to preload your Rough Country... it may help some, but they are known to be on the stiff side....

              As for torque... I cant remember exactly, the spring bolts and shackle bolts I torqued RB down to was 65 ft lbs...
              Todd
              www.ttsfabworks.com

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              • billyrb
                BJ's Off-Road
                • Aug 15, 2001
                • 10032

                #8
                The PIG Smith.....uhhh, noooooo......for you, the only REAL option is to replace it with a.....a.....a BJ's Off-Road suspension kit......shocks won't help that old kit you already have.........yeah, that's the ticket......
                BJ's Off-Road
                [email protected]
                Your source for '63-'91 FSJ Parts

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                • klank
                  304 AMC
                  • Sep 02, 2003
                  • 1688

                  #9
                  good info. I'll hopefully be doing a lift next year, that she be about the time this thing starts running again.

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                  • The PIG Smith
                    King Browless

                    Moderator
                    • Nov 30, 2001
                    • 6538

                    #10
                    Originally posted by billyrb:
                    The PIG Smith.....uhhh, noooooo......for you, the only REAL option is to replace it with a.....a.....a BJ's Off-Road suspension kit......shocks won't help that old kit you already have.........yeah, that's the ticket......
                    Ryan,

                    You may get a sale after tax time (later spring/early summer)

                    I do not know much the kit on my rig or even what shocks I have.
                    The PO thought is was a Rough Country, but he did not know.
                    He just went to a local 4X4 Shop had them install a kit.

                    I would feel much better if I knew what was on it and that it was kinda/sorta smooth.

                    I know to ask for a Caddy smooth ride with a lift kit is asking for too much, but the 2-1/2 ton truck style ride is also way to much for my dental work!

                    I'll get back to you for a complete kit with shocks after my wallet survives and recovers from Christmas!
                    Bryan Smith
                    2017 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited
                    - 75th Anniversary Edition - 1941 Trim Package - Recon Green
                    1986 Jeep J20
                    - Super clean rig from the AZ/CA state line
                    1982 Jeep J10
                    - Has become a Long Term Project.
                    1981 Jeep J20
                    - Commercial flat bed - Lost in a Divorce --gone
                    1987 Jeep J20 Pioneer
                    - Former Rick Bielec aka Ricbee plow rig. Major rust!! --gone

                    IFSJA Member #1933 Joined November 30, 2001

                    Originally posted by Jayrodoh
                    ...but if it works, I wouldn't touch it.
                    Originally posted by Lindel
                    Best laid plans, yada yada yada...

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                    • The PIG Smith
                      King Browless

                      Moderator
                      • Nov 30, 2001
                      • 6538

                      #11
                      1jeep4me,

                      Sorry for HiJacking your thread.
                      Bryan Smith
                      2017 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited
                      - 75th Anniversary Edition - 1941 Trim Package - Recon Green
                      1986 Jeep J20
                      - Super clean rig from the AZ/CA state line
                      1982 Jeep J10
                      - Has become a Long Term Project.
                      1981 Jeep J20
                      - Commercial flat bed - Lost in a Divorce --gone
                      1987 Jeep J20 Pioneer
                      - Former Rick Bielec aka Ricbee plow rig. Major rust!! --gone

                      IFSJA Member #1933 Joined November 30, 2001

                      Originally posted by Jayrodoh
                      ...but if it works, I wouldn't touch it.
                      Originally posted by Lindel
                      Best laid plans, yada yada yada...

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                      • 1jeep4me
                        350 Buick
                        • Jun 27, 2001
                        • 998

                        #12
                        No problem I did tighten everything while it was still iin the air......So If I hear everybody correctly that was the wrong thing to do?

                        SHould I now loosen the eyelet bolts and then re tighten them after a year of them being there already? I would have figured they would have seated fairly well by now.. but I could be wrong.....

                        YOu know I will try dif shocks first actually because the rear is the stock spring and prior to me putting on the Nitro shocks it ran smooth Now iwth the Nitro shock on the rear spring is is real stiff....

                        Nitro shocks stifff correct?

                        WHat should I use to replace them with?
                        Jenny SOLD
                        1982 Cherokee Chief Wide Track
                        4 inch lift
                        360 ci Edelbrock carb and intake
                        115K
                        Daisy
                        1970 Wagoneer by Kaiser
                        350 Buick/Turbo 400
                        3.73:1 Limited slip
                        41K original miles
                        Lilly
                        SOLD your a good girl LILLY!
                        1973 Commando by Jeep
                        304 2V 3:73 Limited Slip
                        3 Speed
                        93K original miles

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                        • billyrb
                          BJ's Off-Road
                          • Aug 15, 2001
                          • 10032

                          #13
                          1jeep4me, we can get you a deal on shocks if you'd like. We offer the Rancho RS5000's and the ProComp ES3000's. Either of these should work wonders compared to what you have now.

                          ThePIGSmith, to be honest, you really don't need to swap suspensions just yet. I would recommend the same thing to you: change shocks first. I tend to like to fix the cheapest part first. Trace down the problems and fix em', one by one.
                          BJ's Off-Road
                          [email protected]
                          Your source for '63-'91 FSJ Parts

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                          • #14
                            You can still gain a little comfort... the centerpins for the bushings of the shackles and and springs have knurled ends... which 'bite' the metal hard when you torque them down... so when you did this in the air...the rubber has to twist when you put it on the ground... which in turns wants nothing more than you go back to the position it was tightened at...

                            So if you loosen it all up GOOD.... bounce on it with 2-3 people and retighten.. you could feel a change right away...

                            this of course goes for the front suspension since you left the rear alone with the blocks...
                            Todd
                            www.ttsfabworks.com

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                            • gsmikie
                              Auto Trannie God
                              • Feb 18, 2001
                              • 10544

                              #15
                              remove the 2 bottom springs it will smooth it right out
                              I\'ve seen gsmikie\'s video for the TH400 and thought it was just awful.watching a guy tear down a greasy pile of metal in a junkyard. it dosent have to be surrounded by water to be an island

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